Hyphens in domain names or NO hyphens in domain names ...

[Sharon & Roy]

Hi, Can you tell me exactly what this means:
The EASIEST way to obtain high rankings is to build ONE domain and to create hundreds of subdirectories and thousands of pages. Can you give me an example for my site www.fitnessandkids.com

Hi Denise,

It means that if you only have 20 or 30 pages on your domain, that you should create many more pages. The more pages you create for your domain, the easier it will be to obtain high rankings.

Then make sure that your Navigation Menu is listed on all your pages.

The Navigation Menu would be best to be a single file that is called via SSI (Server Side Includes) so that any updates can be quickly and easily done to just one file and not all your files.

Your Friends,

Sharon & Roy

[vison2003]

I recently designed a site for a client that is now No 1 in Google.
He also registered a new domain name then redirected that to the same site.

The new domain is currently No 1 on MSN

Question: Is he mirroring the sites and will he get penalized?
If so, should he take down the new domain before this happens?

Thanks,

[CorpRebel]

Hi All!

OK ... I'm a glutton for punishment ...

What is the difference between "pointing" a domain name to your hosting site and "forwarding" a domain name to your site as it pertains to SEOs. I guess that is where I am getting confused.

I hope I asked that right ...

I've always thought that "pointing" a domain name is what the registrar does to get your site setup and "forwarding" a domain name to a site is just that ... "forwarding" to the SAME address (though still done by the registrar) or any other domain.

For example, I have mydomain.com as my main domain AND have both mydomain.net and mydomain.biz being "forwarded" to mydomain.com .

So is THAT a NO NO too? Or maybe I'm just up too late (or early as I look at the clock)?

Definitely following this thread with interest!


Have A Great Rest Of The Week!

Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel

[Sharon & Roy]

I recently designed a site for a client that is now No 1 in Google.

He also registered a new domain name then redirected that to the same site.

The new domain is currently No 1 on MSN

Question: Is he mirroring the sites and will he get penalized?

If so, should he take down the new domain before this happens?

Hi Vison2003,

You give us nothing to check, so to be safe we'll say that if the redirection is NOT via a permanent redirect (using a "301" code in HTTP headers) to the new domain, then it is Spam and subject to penalties and banishment.

The Only Non-Spam Way To Redirect Your Pages Is To Use The HTTP 301 Permanent Redirection

Vison2003, if you will post BOTH URLs, we'll check the redirection for you. (Let is know which URL is redirection to the other.)

Thanks!

Your Friends,

Sharon & Roy

[Sharon & Roy]

What is the difference between "pointing" a domain name to your hosting site and "forwarding" a domain name to your site as it pertains to SEOs. I guess that is where I am getting confused.

I hope I asked that right ...

Hi Rick,

Yes, your question is a frequently asked question and the answer is simple.

First, the difference between "pointing" a domain name to your hosting site and "forwarding" a domain name to your site as it pertains to SEOs, is the SPELLING. LOL <WINK>

Seriously, though, in almost all cases, Web Hosts are NOT SEOs and therefore either don't know, or don't care if "pointing" a domain name to your domain is going to create a Spam situation for their clients, so they don't WARN them of the danger before they "point" or "forward" or "redirect" and no matter what name they use to describe what they are doing, if it is NOT done via a permanent redirect (using a "301" code in HTTP headers), then it is Spam and subject to penalties and banishment.

The Only Non-Spam Way To Redirect Your Pages Is To Use The HTTP 301 Permanent Redirection

I've always thought that "pointing" a domain name is what the registrar does to get your site setup and "forwarding" a domain name to a site is just that ... "forwarding" to the SAME address (though still done by the registrar) or any other domain.

Rick, you may very well be correct, but the problem is that other people may not have the same meanings as you do when they use those terms.

For example, I have mydomain.com as my main domain AND have both mydomain.net and mydomain.biz being "forwarded" to mydomain.com .

Now, if you are talking SEO-Speak, then "forwarding" domains is Spam, as you must never forward domains but ONLY "redirect" them via a permanent redirect (using a "301" code in HTTP headers).

Rick, it is all just semantics!

So is THAT a NO NO too? Or maybe I'm just up too late (or early as I look at the clock)?

It sure SOUNDS like it, but to be sure, we'll need URLs to check it for you.

Your Friends,

Sharon & Roy

[networkmom]

What if I purchased a domain name and have it forwarded to my fitnesandkids.com site but I have never promoted or submitted the new domain name anywhere? Should I still stop with the forwarding service?


Thanks
Denise

[Sharon & Roy]

What if I purchased a domain name and have it forwarded to my fitnesandkids.com site but I have never promoted or submitted the new domain name anywhere? Should I still stop with the forwarding service?

Hi Denise,

Without looking at the URLs, we have no way of knowing what you mean.

Please post the URLs of the domains and let us know which one "forwards" to the other.

Your Friends,

Sharon & Roy

[networkmom]

I purchased exerciseandkids.com from go daddy.com and they had a forwarding service so I had it point to www.fitnessandkids.com


Thanks
Denise

[Guest]

Hello,

Me Again ...


Does it matter where the domains are parked? All my extra domains are parked on my registrars service (in this case GoDaddy). I don't have ANY of my other domains parked on MY CashJunction.com site. So I cannot do anything about a permanent redirect from GoDaddy's "parking" servers.

That was has been causing my confusion. I basically understand what you've been talking about (the permanent redirect). So I guess that also begs a question ... Does it make any difference to the SEO where the domains are parked?

As an example, I have my newsletter domain CashJunctionTallySheet.com being "forwarded" to a subdomain on my CashJunction.com site which is > CashJunctionTallySheet.CashJunction.com

If I were to "point" CashJunctionTallySheet.com to that sub-domain my host would charge me, so I am just forwarding it from it's parked position on GoDaddy's servers.

Is this STILL unacceptable?

And by the way ... THANKS SO MUCH for putting up with my questions!


Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel

[CorpRebel]

Hello again,

Forgot to login before ...

I need to make some corrections in my post as follows:

As an example, I have my newsletter domain CashJunctionTallySheet.com being "forwarded" to a subdomain on my CashJunction.com site which is > CJTallySheet.CashJunction.com


Sorry ...

Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel

[Sharon & Roy]

I purchased exerciseandkids.com from go daddy.com and they had a forwarding service so I had it point to www.fitnessandkids.com

Denise, your domain redirection is set up PERFECTLY.


The following shows that only ...

fitnessandkids.com

... Has been indexed by Google.


.............................
http://www.google.com/search?q=exerciseandkids.com
Sorry, no information is available for the URL exerciseandkids[DOT]com


http://www.google.com/search?q=fitnessandkids.com
Fitness and Kids - Children's Health-Fitness and weight loss ...
Welcome to Fitness and Kids Today's activity levels and the lifestyles
of today's youth have surely undergone a big change. Television ...
.............................



As long as Google (as well as the other search engines) doesn't find any link that points to ...

exerciseandkids[DOT]com

... The domian will never be spider or indexed.

Denise can promote this domain Offline all she wants and place the URL on all of her printed materials, business cards and the like.

Then even if by chance, if someone should place a link to ...

exerciseandkids[DOT]com

... And it does get spider and indexed by Google and the other search engines there will be no harm and no penalties to worry about.

To ensure that this domain will NOT get indexed, simply place a robots.txt file in the root directory like this ...


User-agent: *
Disallow: /


For more information ... Standard For Robot Exclusion
http://www.robotstxt.org/wc/robots.html

Your Friends,

Sharon & Roy

[Sharon & Roy]

As an example, I have my newsletter domain ...

CashJunctionTallySheet[DOT]com

being "forwarded" to a subdomain on my CashJunction.com site which is > ...

CJTallySheet[DOT]CashJunction.com

Rick, your domain redirection is set up PERFECTLY.


The following shows that neither ...

cashjunctiontallysheet[DOT]com

... Or ...

cjtallysheet[DOT]cashjunction[DOT]com

... Has been indexed by Google.


.............................
http://www.google.com/search?q=cashjunc ... ysheet.com
Sorry, no information is available for the URL cashjunctiontallysheet[DOT]com


http://www.google.com/search?q=cjtallys ... nction.com
Sorry, no information is available for the URL cjtallysheet.cashjunction[DOT]com
.............................


Rick, what you have done here, is something that is NOT SEO Friendly.

1.) Do you want high rankings for ...

cashjunctiontallysheet[DOT]com ?


12.) Will you be linking to this page? (cashjunctiontallysheet[DOT]com)

3.) Will you want others to link to it? (cashjunctiontallysheet[DOT]com)

And what about your other page ...

cjtallysheet[DOT]cashjunction.com ?


4.) Will you be linking to this page? (cjtallysheet.cashjunction[DOT]com)

5.) Will you want others to link to it? (cjtallysheet.cashjunction[DOT]com)


Rick, just answer YES or NO to the above questions if you want our advice about SEO for your current setup.

If you don't want or need our advice, then there is no need to answer.

Your Friends,

Sharon & Roy

[CorpRebel]

Hi Sharon and Roy!

I really should have used my main site as an example ...

CashJunction.com - (not in Google anyway cuz it's more of a resource directory with lots of affiliate links and not much "content")

I have two domains parked on my registrar's servers, CashJunction.net and CashJunction.biz that I have "forwarded" to CashJunction.com .


But as for the CJTallySheet site, after reading all your advice and recommendations about using directories and such, I think my best course is to make that a stand-alone site and get rid of the sub-domain for it now.

As for your questions ...

1.) Do you want high rankings for ...

cashjunctiontallysheet[DOT]com ?

Yes

2.) Will you be linking to this page? (cashjunctiontallysheet[DOT]com)

I would imagine.

3.) Will you want others to link to it? (cashjunctiontallysheet[DOT]com)

And what about your other page ... cjtallysheet[DOT]cashjunction.com ?

Yes (for CashJunctionTallySheet.com)

As for CJTallySheet.CashJunction.com ... I doubt it now that I might be better off with a separate site for CashJunctionTallySheet. Does that sound like a better way to deal with it?

4.) Will you be linking to this page? (cjtallysheet.cashjunction[DOT]com)

Eventually, No

5.) Will you want others to link to it? (cjtallysheet.cashjunction[DOT]com)

No, since I'm taking the sub-domain out in the near future.


I guess I have a WHOLE LOTTA decisions to come up with - huh??

Well ... since I am in the middle of some site reorganizations, I'm glad I am getting this info now!

Thanks sooo much Sharon and Roy! I TRULY appreciate your generosity and taking the time to provide all this assistance.



AND Thank You Lynn for having them here!


Have A GREAT Weekend All!

Rick Wilson aka CorpRebel

[Lynn Terry]

I appreciate the info, too.. I'm really enjoying this thread

I'm going to pass the thanks on to Sharon & Roy for joining us here - I feel extremely fortunate to have met you both and appreciate all that you do here at SSWT!

[vision2003]

Vison2003, if you will post BOTH URLs, we'll check the redirection for you. (Let is know which URL is redirection to the other.)

http://www.motorcycleframes.us (main site)
http://www.motorcycleelectrics.com (redirecting to main site)

I'd appreciate your feedback.

Thanks,